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Blood ravens lore.
Proenca
Hello i wanted to start by saying im really a huge fan of the Dawn of war series and in general the warhammer40k lore and i have over 2000 Hours in every game including the most on Chaos rising and Retribution from dawn of war 2 and ofc the jewel dawn of war1.
So you can imagine what a fat nerd i am about the game, now my issue is Relic is really murdering the Lore i liked the dawn of war 3 campaing but they really rushed it so that people start playing multiplayer and they really want to turn it into Sc2 in my Opinion.
No i am not Hating or anything of the sort but the ending they gave us + the necron reveal was nice but the fact that no lore or anything else comes out when you complete the final mission they just go separate ways and thats it.
I know you folks cant really answer my question since as myself we dont work for relic but im really worried il be Honest i hate it how they made Gabriel mostly becuse of the sweet Honey voice from Paul dobson, he was a really iconic character and tbh i think relic destroyed him.
Moving along we still have Aramus better known has commander Hairgel , cyrus martellus and all that bunch and they didnt make an appearance in dow3 wich is really strange.
And since relic is making the game more Versatile now it seems with its not blood ravens focused but more off a bit from every race wich i have nothing against.
Even tough i personally think eldar are getting the most atention since they are strongest race in the game and they have a really good lore in dawn of war 3.
Buts thats my Opinion alot of the eldar fanboys will probably rage at me, no ive not forgotten how op SM have been in the past must say that in dow2 you had to be a really good eldar to really make a Difference but we arent in dow2.
So basicly i wanted to know maybe a relic staff member could reply on if we are going to see some people of the past if aramus is coming back from his Penance crusade and etc, if we will have a new campaing since the necrons will be released before chaos wich suprised me tbh.
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tritol
what could they do, gorgutz is smart, macha is weak and gabriel isnt black templar so he is ok with letting filthy xenos live
and I think and hope that there will come some more background explanation when the necrons come
because it basically starts with the problem where did they go ? they are on some floating piece of rock in middle of debris field from destroyed planet with no reinforcements and no way out and only people who can get them out are either dead, eldar or prick inquisitor
Proenca
Yea but compared to dawn of war 1 since i cant really compare it to dow2 this campaing was dog ++heresy redacted++, even tough there are only 12 missions.
GeneralSkull
there is more of this in my page called BLOOD RAVENS
Proenca
oh missed that gonna check it out my dude
SharKnight
@Proenca THE campaign was very uninspired and copy paste of past story campaigns.
@GeneralSkull mind giving us a link kindley?
Proenca
Cant really tell what you mean with past stories.
the only story i could relate to and that would be twisting it a litle bit is from dawn of war 1.
And please do not compare a masterpiece with this Humm game.
SharKnight
It means that it is basically the whole plot point "angry inquisitor, evil daemon of khorne inside an artifact that gets liberated" basically it happens the same in a more uninspired and inspidid way of what happens in the original DOW.
Then the whole plot of "everyone wants to get the big super weapon in a race" it's basically winter assault, even in the way that it is told.
GeneralSkull
just click on my profile and go to my page and you will see
Proenca
cant say no to that
SykA
Well at least there is no Khornate psyker this time
GeneralSkull
I have reviewed the dow3 comics
https://community.dawnofwar.com/discussion/16292/dawn-of-war-3-game-vs-dawn-of-war-3-comics-which-is-the-best-or-the-worst#latest
SharKnight
I do agree with you @Proenca the lore of DOW 3 made the Blood Ravens look completely out of character. Previously they resembled modern era Marines doing operations at the desert and being complete champs that radiated confidence and competence within their operations.
Dow III are actual Lamenters cosplaying as Blood Ravens.
When the novelization portrays the Blood Ravens better than what the game does then that tells you something. Let alone the story was a mish mash of the original alongside winter assault, it could had been so much better. I offered my services to Relic for free as an intern but they where to arrogant. There was a good story there with the elements but welp...
You can also ignore it which is why I do, if you think about it the end of DOW 2 can fit perfectly into Dark Imperium and Indomitus crusade.
SharKnight
Believe it or not, there have been Khornate psykers in the 40k lore before. They are just rare and obscure and concentrate on Biomancy "BUFF UP the blood within your body etc" and as scribes to archive all the glorious mayhem.
DMac
Considering that Angelos accidentally let a daemon out when he didn't listen to Macha, and he's had multiple bad experiences with chaos (including having to request Exterminatus on his own homeworld?) since the Blood Ravens' introduction in DoW1, he's probably more predisposed to work together with her against a daemon prince instead of going all "SUFFER NOT THE XENOS TO LIVE" this time.
If I had to guess, there was probably some sort of plan to force the two to work together yet again (it's just a recurring thing at this point) against the Necrons they'd just woken up, but with the absolutely ruthless reception DoWIII received we'll probably never know what the plan was. At least there was a White Dwarf issue (July 2019) to give some hope that the chapter hasn't been forgotten; it confirmed that the Blood Ravens get Primaris marines and hinted that Angelos is up to something the Blood Ravens don't want the broader Imperium to know about. And the issue's model showcase was Magnus the Red. Weird.