Patch 11.7.2017

Auni

Hello i was hoping for this patch , and then i read the patchnotes and im REALLY DISAPOINTED!

1.) A new map , again only for 2vs2 or 3vs3,

2.) zero balance changes

3.) Zero map design changes

4.) Zero ressource changes.

Who THE HELL need new skins, or a new 3vs3 map?
Are you kidding me?

We need MOre 1vs1 maps
Better ressource system
Balanced maps
Different gametypes on quickmatch
Observerslot
better replay funktion

What we don't need, are USELESS SKINS!
USELESS 3vs3 maps!

Auni

Also more Units for each race, or more races would be amazing!
Doktrin system rework - more taktikal option's ingame

That means doktrin should be really useless , and important upgrades should be ingmae.
Like Landspeeder doktrins should be instantly aviable, or over a upgrade ingame!
Same on phönix by Eldar, and alot of other units, like deathcopter and so on!!

Stop creating units, or balance this over 3-4 doktrin's!"
The base unit need to be usefull, and also some usefull upgrades need to be ingame!

Not that every 1vs1 game feeeeeeel like the same .

But hey relic will know what we need or?
SKins are important for game play or?
another 3vs3 map for this balanced 3vs3 modus , thats important for the quality of dow3 or? NOO=OOO

CANNED_F3TUS

This is a community update... Not a patch. The patch will be released a week or so later.

Skins are not useless alot of people wanted this and people enjoy 3 v 3s so thats not useless either.

Just because something does not cater to your needs doesnt make it bad.

Bersercker

I think there might be two different teams working on adding new stuff into the game and balance which don't necessarily finish their current updates at the same time. Otherwise i don't see why there are no balance changes in this patch.

Auni

okay useless is a hard word.
And 3vs3 map can be nice for some guy's .

BUT honestly skins? maybe im allready to old for games ;P
But i never ever care about a skin on any game , aslong this skin has no effect of gameplay.

and community update? and patch ? guy..

Community update is a update for your community, this could be a simple forum post from dev's about there plans in future or something else.
A Patch is something what you need to download , and update your game. And you get mostly new content in, or something changed!

Okay now tell me, we got a Patch or a community update?

In my opinion its a patch, cause i was downloading 350 mb, install it, and get new skins + a new map.

Jelly

The skins are a reaction to bad reviews from wh40k diehards. People like you @Auni who are actually playing the game don't have time to notice these trivialities, but many who left bad reviews claim that seeing Gabe vs Gabe or even just one Gabe fighting along space marines who weren't painted in Blood Raven standard was immersion breaking to the point of being unplayable.

Like the annihilation update this feels like Relic running around putting out fires, but I doubt the steam reviews will be turned around without even more appeasements.

GenDrameron

Okay Okay Update......but something bold would be needed! you are a new race Ranked system, you are more More OST content, you are a really well-designed spektator mod than SC2.

Exzodium

Calm your pauldrons OP.

vindicarex

I analyzed one of OP's replay "evidence" about his balance concerns -

basically everything I saw in the game came down to micro and strategic mistakes.

I.E. he is projecting inadequacies in his own gameplay into the game mechanics. Who is really at fault?

I.E. "Calm your pauldrons"

ThePendulum

@vindicarex said:
I analyzed one of OP's replay "evidence" about his balance concerns -

basically everything I saw in the game came down to micro and strategic mistakes.

I.E. he is projecting inadequacies in his own gameplay into the game mechanics. Who is really at fault?

I.E. "Calm your pauldrons"

To be fair: reviewing one replay doesn't quite offer a solid "grouping" of one's abilities, or lack there-of. That said, I'm in the boat of: some content is better than no content, and customizable heroes is always a good thing IMO.

Deathmaw

I like the 3v3 maps, I consider 1v1 maps useless. So don't go shouting your opinion round like it is a fact.

Krakza

@Jelly said:
The skins are a reaction to bad reviews from wh40k diehards. People like you @Auni who are actually playing the game don't have time to notice these trivialities, but many who left bad reviews claim that seeing Gabe vs Gabe or even just one Gabe fighting along space marines who weren't painted in Blood Raven standard was immersion breaking to the point of being unplayable.

Like the annihilation update this feels like Relic running around putting out fires, but I doubt the steam reviews will be turned around without even more appeasements.

^^^

"I need my heroes to be of my subfaction and not be specific named heroes RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 0/10 GAYM"

Annihilation was the game mode, mass-whined into existence, that didn't need to be. Same maps with less to do, or that's certainly how I feel.

ThePendulum

@Krakza said:

@Jelly said:
The skins are a reaction to bad reviews from wh40k diehards. People like you @Auni who are actually playing the game don't have time to notice these trivialities, but many who left bad reviews claim that seeing Gabe vs Gabe or even just one Gabe fighting along space marines who weren't painted in Blood Raven standard was immersion breaking to the point of being unplayable.

Like the annihilation update this feels like Relic running around putting out fires, but I doubt the steam reviews will be turned around without even more appeasements.

^^^

"I need my heroes to be of my subfaction and not be specific named heroes RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 0/10 GAYM"

Annihilation was the game mode, mass-whined into existence, that didn't need to be. Same maps with less to do, or that's certainly how I feel.

I fail to see what taunting others on their opinion actually brings to the game, when you're only argument seems to be another opinion.

It would be more fair to say that adding things like customizable heroes for the sake of immersion being the only thing added (as opposed to maps and modes) would certainly be detrimental, but that's not the argument you made, as I understand it.

As it stands, what's wrong with adding both maps/modes and customization options?

MaxwellsDaemon

I think these additions are great. Balance needs longer to play out I think, even if we think we've got it sussed it's better to be patient and have better data to work with.

Equally with the tourny coming up next week a balance patch could throw things. While, as an Eldar player, I'd appreciate that- I think it's much fairer having everyone going in with a solid understanding of how the game is playing rather than one guy figuring out some OP strat that catches everyone odd guard and cheeses the tournament.

PLUS, while I think everyone agrees that balance favours Orks currently and scout spam - the tournament is the perfect testing ground for our assumptions. I'll be playing Eldar and am fully anticipating getting my ++heresy redacted++ handed to me (by both higher skilled players and Ork players AND higher skilled Ork players) but I'm certainly looking forward to seeing how it plays out anyway.... whether it's Nob rush all the way or whether in the next week someone figures out a decent counter strat.

Krakza

@ThePendulum said:

I fail to see what taunting others on their opinion actually brings to the game, when you're only argument seems to be another opinion.

It would be more fair to say that adding things like customizable heroes for the sake of immersion being the only thing added (as opposed to maps and modes) would certainly be detrimental, but that's not the argument you made, as I understand it.

As it stands, what's wrong with adding both maps/modes and customization options?

I didn't make an argument.

I'm fine with adding customisable heroes. I'm not fine with how people hyperbole a lack of it into a dealbreaker.

That's it.

Jelly

@Deathmaw said:
I like the 3v3 maps, I consider 1v1 maps useless. So don't go shouting your opinion round like it is a fact.

The fact is the last map was also 2v2/3v3 and in the interim the lackluster 1v1 pool hasn't gotten any better. I'd like Relic to reveal a direct route for community maps to enter the quickmatch pool so the community could take the issue into their own hands and we wouldn't have to fight over the pie like this.