I have really troubles as ork against Snipers in generall but espacialy against eldar.
Betamap, i was dominating , hold 4 + middle point, but he still get enough ressources to push snipers to annoying me, i have nothing to come close to him.
No jump like spacemarine.
Then he come with antigrav , and also flying tanks. i was watching into my last building, where i can build a slow Tank with siegemode, and a helicopter, and 2 melee units.
all of this are not able to counter this tank.
so what i sopposed to do? i mean thats just annoying as hell, i lost the game in the end, cause he get elitepoints over time (i really hate this conzept) and then he just poke with elite spells and elite Power ability.
And if i compare the elite power ability from eldar to orks, idunno i would choose in any case the Eldar ability.
also his big Elite was just better then my, faster and got a jump!! nobody of my big elites has this, aslo im forced to take 1 Big elite, for the Doktrin , cause otherwise i need to grind it, i played allready 50 hours, idunno why i have to grind anyway game important upgrades in a fullprice game?
As Spacemarine its also annoying, but i can camp, until landspeeder and whirlwind and nuke him out of his base without wasting my army, or i build also snipers.
But Ork has no Landspeeder or so, only this copter, and this copter is way to week, a landspeeder can take out more t1 squads, a copter die to simple shooter's also!
Antigrav and also anti tank units was also nice, i dont know i got only this tankbusters , they need to place his weapons, while the eldar is flying over walls and just lasers all away, and if his shield goes down he fly back to base. there is nothing i can do with catching up.
i tryd allready this taunt orks, i build few of them,.but 1-2 die before there are even in tauntrange.
Then i got a Stun over 1 MINUTE while his army move to my range dd and destroy all, then go back to base.
i killed his hero, oh no i dont last stand is comming, and he run back.
Im not able to trade against this.
Is there ANY counter to this? as ork? I mean i cant take this 2 points on his side if he got a army left, i cant destroy his army if he just poke and run back to base.
I cant push in phase 3-4 before im not able to kill 1-2 elite from him.
I get herassed, while i have no counter to this Flying unit?
What i should do?
i mean yeah, i can rush in earlygame, against eldar not really possible. cause after 4 mins he just get his natural counter to my units ( elitepoints) i cant stop him from getting this. And i cant end the game in 4 mins.
Also cause of this shield mechanic, eldars has anyway more hp in such early fights!
I can load up my boyz too true, but banshees counters my boys, and also the granate coutner it.
And like i wrote after 4 min i HAVE to stay passive until min 6. But if he goes mass sniper after this, my commander is USELESS.
I try also with my Tank (unlock 4) but also uselesss..
I need something to get closer and get a stun, and to be able to punish sniper plays.
Betamap, he use snipers from highground + lowground to poke the middle generators.
You have to hold 1 of this, otherwise you are behind anyway.
So you get nonstop pokes(cost you money) and if i try to get near to him with to less units they just get dmg, and elder units just need few meters until shieldbubble, and few meters more for the big tower.
So i really dont know, maybe Truck + Tauntorks work, with some shooters behind to fokus 1-2 squads down. But for this i need alot of tech, and also some units and so on. While the eldar need Warpgate + sniper tech = sniperproduktion
I need 3 towers for tauntboys, and also 2 different buildings for truck + tauntboys. but still i need early units to get not rushed. cause he has the better elite from minute 4-6
so what i supposed to do?