Is this intended? Is the dps actually higher during this phase and the engine is just missing a step in its calculations? I would've assumed plasma's gain dps upon rapid fire mode activation to be higher than the original dps.
Can you like not flood the forum with 4+ topics a day? Seems excessive and as if you're not really thinking out your questions. Maybe merge some of these into a single thread?
@DaDokisinX said:
Can you like not flood the forum with 4+ topics a day? Seems excessive and as if you're not really thinking out your questions. Maybe merge some of these into a single thread?
Petty much? The guy looks to be reporting valid issues that would most likely otherwise go unnoted. And here you are telling him he's basically annoying? Support you community bro
@DaDokisinX said:
Can you like not flood the forum with 4+ topics a day? Seems excessive and as if you're not really thinking out your questions. Maybe merge some of these into a single thread?
Sorry man, I had nothing to do for the remainder of my time at school, so I got really active on the forums. Compiling all the issues into one thread may be less clumpy, but I felt they should have been their own topic.
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
@Draconix said:
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
@Draconix said:
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
So if this patch, then I will have to play without plasma guns until it will be fixed. Like I said, usually I'm playing only against AI by himself.
@Draconix said:
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
So if this patch, then I will have to play without plasma guns until it will be fixed. Like I said, usually I'm playing only against AI by himself.
I noticed it a long long time ago. It is not just this patch.
@Draconix said:
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
So if this patch, then I will have to play without plasma guns until it will be fixed. Like I said, usually I'm playing only against AI by himself.
I noticed it a long long time ago. It is not just this patch.
Ah didn't knew it that. I was using plasma guns when playing as Space Marine against AI, but didn't knew about this issue until now.
@Kat_RE , or even @Gorb, I won't be punished for using plasma guns against AI without knowing about that issue, if there was really a issue?
@Draconix said:
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
So if this patch, then I will have to play without plasma guns until it will be fixed. Like I said, usually I'm playing only against AI by himself.
I noticed it a long long time ago. It is not just this patch.
Ah didn't knew it that. I was using plasma guns when playing as Space Marine against AI, but didn't knew about this issue until now.
@Kat_RE , or even @Gorb, I won't be punished for using plasma guns against AI without knowing about that issue, if there was really a issue?
@Draconix said:
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
So if this patch, then I will have to play without plasma guns until it will be fixed. Like I said, usually I'm playing only against AI by himself.
I noticed it a long long time ago. It is not just this patch.
Ah didn't knew it that. I was using plasma guns when playing as Space Marine against AI, but didn't knew about this issue until now.
@Kat_RE , or even @Gorb, I won't be punished for using plasma guns against AI without knowing about that issue, if there was really a issue?
Why would you be punished?
Because that issue might be a exploit? I'm actually worried.
@tritol said:
(guys could you post replay/vids? I am currently like Kharn with rubicks cube and cant replicate this problem)
This.
I didn't play much sm recently but most of my sm opponents seem quite fond of plasma guns. They melt everything pretty fast while in rapid fire mode too.
I mean, would be kinda strange if all these people using them didn't notice that plasma guns are a downgrade not an upgrade. Though you never know ofc.
Plasma guns don't receive scaling boosts as they heat up; they receive a single bonus after they reach a warm-up threshold. At this threshold, Plasma guns have their damage multiplied by 0.6875 and receive a 2-second cooldown reduction (reducing their time between shots from 2.25-2.5 to 0.25-0.5). I've seen the DPS readout drop when the Plasma Guns heat up as well and I suspect that the DPS readout takes the damage reduction into account but not the cooldown reduction.
Note that Plasma Guns have a squad DPS of 32 so are a downgrade until they heat up (giving 110 DPS?).
The files are a bit of a tangle of ledger_write_actions for damage ramping so any corrections would be welcome.
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DaDokisinX
Can you like not flood the forum with 4+ topics a day? Seems excessive and as if you're not really thinking out your questions. Maybe merge some of these into a single thread?
Lucidic
Petty much? The guy looks to be reporting valid issues that would most likely otherwise go unnoted. And here you are telling him he's basically annoying? Support you community bro
Wikkyd
Sorry man, I had nothing to do for the remainder of my time at school, so I got really active on the forums. Compiling all the issues into one thread may be less clumpy, but I felt they should have been their own topic.
Sorry for the inconvenience
CANNED_F3TUS
That could be an issue never used plasma guns too much and id think too that DPS would increase at rapid fire.
Draconix
I used plasma guns when playing Space Marines, but I didn't noticed that. Also, it that issue was before this patch or after?
By the way, usually, I played only against AI, after finishing campaign, I won't be punished for using plasma guns if there was really a issue, with me not knowing that before?
Wikkyd
I have no idea honestly. I just noticed it this patch.
Draconix
So if this patch, then I will have to play without plasma guns until it will be fixed. Like I said, usually I'm playing only against AI by himself.
Wardemon
I noticed it a long long time ago. It is not just this patch.
Draconix
Ah didn't knew it that. I was using plasma guns when playing as Space Marine against AI, but didn't knew about this issue until now.
@Kat_RE , or even @Gorb, I won't be punished for using plasma guns against AI without knowing about that issue, if there was really a issue?
tritol
(guys could you post replay/vids? I am currently like Kharn with rubicks cube and cant replicate this problem)
Wikkyd
Why would you be punished?
Draconix
Because that issue might be a exploit? I'm actually worried.
Bersercker
This.
I didn't play much sm recently but most of my sm opponents seem quite fond of plasma guns. They melt everything pretty fast while in rapid fire mode too.
I mean, would be kinda strange if all these people using them didn't notice that plasma guns are a downgrade not an upgrade. Though you never know ofc.
Svanh
Plasma guns don't receive scaling boosts as they heat up; they receive a single bonus after they reach a warm-up threshold. At this threshold, Plasma guns have their damage multiplied by 0.6875 and receive a 2-second cooldown reduction (reducing their time between shots from 2.25-2.5 to 0.25-0.5). I've seen the DPS readout drop when the Plasma Guns heat up as well and I suspect that the DPS readout takes the damage reduction into account but not the cooldown reduction.
Note that Plasma Guns have a squad DPS of 32 so are a downgrade until they heat up (giving 110 DPS?).
The files are a bit of a tangle of ledger_write_actions for damage ramping so any corrections would be welcome.