Kommando can wreck Diomedes, though. Not only can you stealth mine and blast him very quickly, but Kommando's attack can knockback twice, making him perfect for making sure Diomedes is not on top of your Lootas, which can then DPS him down.
man, we didn't received ANY 1vs1 map since game release, i am SOO HAPPY that we are receiving one now!!!
And this time a map with more open space!!! FINALLY!!!
If the community is happy with this than I guess I am too. Whatever gets people playing.
@IntoTheRainbow said:
Like who would win Diomedes vs Warboss (using special abilities)?
Diomedes, by far
Even with Warboss' Spinning Klaw move + Stun Klaw attack? Would be quite close I'd imagine.
Not even the same league.
Warboss is amazing for disrupting armies and protecting own, but he is about worst 1v1 hero you could have in game, especially against single target opponents instead of squads as he got one of the lowest raw DPS(25) but cleave attack, making him very good against high DPS squads, preferably ranged, but he does fine against melee as well as his own attacks reduce DPS by 50%. Still, even after that reduction, Dio got almost twice as much DPS.
Interesting. Diomedes is as badass as he looks then. I'm an Ork player mostly so haven't spent a lot of time using SM elites.
Where are you getting these stats from btw?
You can dig all stats using mod tools, but game tells you a lot if you pay attention and read codex.
I really hope, every race get a new Elite.
Otherwise it will be Mirror matchup 24/7 espacialy in 1vs1.
For sure, everyone want to try out the new Elite.
I am a little bit scared, that relic will give us every mounth 1 elite. So they got 3 mounths of "DLC - update's" with everytime a single elite .
I really hope im wrong in this case, and we get all 3 Elites in same time(eldar,ork,sm)
While i have to say, the Doktrin's on this Elite are very bad. espacialy in 1vs1.
Landspeeder get another doktrin, i wish you would buff the Main unit and not add another doktrin for this.
I mean of course, a Landspeeder with triple doktrin could be really usefull. But yeah why you should take triple landspeeder doktrin to get a "powerfull" landspeeder out on min 10-11 . sadly you lost the map control on this point allready, and basicly the game anyway!
Your opponent will have atleast 3-4 squads mroe then you and also he will be allready on t2.
knockback on scoutmines.
I mean sounds really nice but , scoutmines are so easy to counter.
Every mine is easy to counter in this game. Cause you just need workers with you and you can ignore the mines!
Aslong you got vision to this mines, they cannot be activated, even if you step on it.
We do not see the costs of this elite atm.
But im 99% sure, this will be a Heavy armor Elite, so it has to be 6 point+ .
If this Elite would be really a 4-5 point elite, you could rush it, out while your opponent has not a single anti tank weapon = GG
Finnaly, after 6 mounths? we got a new 1vs1 map, only 1??
@Kat_RE where is the problem, why you won't add every 3 mounth a complete new mappool , over votes?
Why you offer us mapping tools+ updates for this, if you don't use the maps for your own mappool?
Why is the customlobby system still so weird, why i have to subsribe first to the Mod -> download it, and restart my client?
I mean in 80% the game is closed after my download !
whats about observer modus???
Whats about pathing issues bugs?
VIsion bugs?
this is more important to fix, instead of giving us a new Elite -> atleast in my opinion
@IntoTheRainbow said:
Like who would win Diomedes vs Warboss (using special abilities)?
Diomedes, by far
Even with Warboss' Spinning Klaw move + Stun Klaw attack? Would be quite close I'd imagine.
Not even the same league.
Warboss is amazing for disrupting armies and protecting own, but he is about worst 1v1 hero you could have in game, especially against single target opponents instead of squads as he got one of the lowest raw DPS(25) but cleave attack, making him very good against high DPS squads, preferably ranged, but he does fine against melee as well as his own attacks reduce DPS by 50%. Still, even after that reduction, Dio got almost twice as much DPS.
Interesting. Diomedes is as badass as he looks then. I'm an Ork player mostly so haven't spent a lot of time using SM elites.
Where are you getting these stats from btw?
You can dig all stats using mod tools, but game tells you a lot if you pay attention and read codex.
@Bigamo said:
so now we will have 3 8 point elites? NICE!
Its a wraithseer, start gathering some sh*t to lose at incoming 7-8ep Macha
@Guziol said:
Mite b cool but i was really hoping for a warlock.
On a cool spectrum, Warlock to Wraithseer is like marine scout to terminator. You really need to try HARD to get any cooler then Wraithseer when it comes to eldar Psychers, dead or alive.
Interesting that Relic goes with theme of new Elites. So that means that Ork also will get a new walker Elite.
The question is, what it would be? Maybe from Forge World like for example Mega Dread? Or it could be Dow3's original unit like Mad Dread? I'm starting to get curious.
Still it's pity that it won't be Fire Dragons, but Wraithseer is nice too. Good that not only Space Marines will get a new Elite.
@Auni said:
I really hope, every race get a new Elite.
Otherwise it will be Mirror matchup 24/7 espacialy in 1vs1.
For sure, everyone want to try out the new Elite.
** I am a little bit scared, that relic will give us every mounth 1 elite. So they got 3 mounths of "DLC - update's" with everytime a single elite .**
@Kat_RE where is the problem, why you won't add every 3 mounth a complete new mappool , over votes?
Why you offer us mapping tools+ updates for this, if you don't use the maps for your own mappool?
Why is the customlobby system still so weird, why i have to subsribe first to the Mod -> download it, and restart my client?
I mean in 80% the game is closed after my download !
whats about observer modus???
Whats about pathing issues bugs?
VIsion bugs?
this is more important to fix, instead of giving us a new Elite -> atleast in my opinion
You spoke too soon. Looks like at least 3 new elites, at least 1 new map and several doctrines this month.
After this, in November, would be nice for Relic to start teasing a new race. They are doing well, gotta keep up the momentum.
Elites are nice too, but more maps are always useful. And in that spirit, i can only agree with those who ask for a procedure to include some really good custom maps into the automatch pool. ( And/or automated ingame map/mod downloads. )
Sweet! I'm sure there'll be a 3v3 in there. That's actually what I'm most excited about in this patch. (still hoping against hope for FFA mode) I don't see the new dread replacing my terminators. Wraithseer is probably the coolest thing they could have added to Eldar. Looking forward to seeing that in action.
@IntoTheRainbow said:
Like who would win Diomedes vs Warboss (using special abilities)?
Diomedes, by far
Even with Warboss' Spinning Klaw move + Stun Klaw attack? Would be quite close I'd imagine.
Not even the same league.
Warboss is amazing for disrupting armies and protecting own, but he is about worst 1v1 hero you could have in game, especially against single target opponents instead of squads as he got one of the lowest raw DPS(25) but cleave attack, making him very good against high DPS squads, preferably ranged, but he does fine against melee as well as his own attacks reduce DPS by 50%. Still, even after that reduction, Dio got almost twice as much DPS.
Interesting. Diomedes is as badass as he looks then. I'm an Ork player mostly so haven't spent a lot of time using SM elites.
Where are you getting these stats from btw?
You can dig all stats using mod tools, but game tells you a lot if you pay attention and read codex.
@IntoTheRainbow said:
Like who would win Diomedes vs Warboss (using special abilities)?
Diomedes, by far
Even with Warboss' Spinning Klaw move + Stun Klaw attack? Would be quite close I'd imagine.
Not even the same league.
Warboss is amazing for disrupting armies and protecting own, but he is about worst 1v1 hero you could have in game, especially against single target opponents instead of squads as he got one of the lowest raw DPS(25) but cleave attack, making him very good against high DPS squads, preferably ranged, but he does fine against melee as well as his own attacks reduce DPS by 50%. Still, even after that reduction, Dio got almost twice as much DPS.
Interesting. Diomedes is as badass as he looks then. I'm an Ork player mostly so haven't spent a lot of time using SM elites.
Where are you getting these stats from btw?
You can dig all stats using mod tools, but game tells you a lot if you pay attention and read codex.
Space marines gets a Ironclad Dreadnought while Eldar gets a Wraithseer... does that mean orks gets Mega Dread?
Not sure about a Mega Dread, as those are clearly bigger and more powerful than regular Deff Dreads. This would require a completely new in-game model as well.
The Mega Dread is a heavy Ork walker and is the largest Ork walker short of a Stompa. The Mega-Dread is a hulking, armor plated monster, much larger and considerably more powerful than the more commonly encountered Deff Dreads and Killa Kans.
It will likely be just a standard Deff Dread with projectile armament. That would be the safest and quite frankly most boring route Relic could take with the Orks' new elite. I think my dream of Flash Gitz is dying.
The other two races seem to be getting elites analogous to their 7-point walkers but with different roles. Ironclad dread instead of plasma cannon dread, wraithseer instead of wraithlord... but I'm not aware of any orky unit which is a ranged walker along the tier of the mad dread.
Functionally, flash gits could fit the role of a 7 point ranged superiority unit? If we're to understand that elites are being released based on the role they should fill, it could fit?
That said, I think youre right in that the smart money is on something like a "kustom dread" with a powerful ranged weapon. I'm just wondering what the weaponry would be. Beamy deffguns? A bunch of rokkit launchas? A bunch of deffguns? A combination of all the above? My deepest wish would be for something like a shokk attack gun, even as just an activatable ability to do high damage to a vehicle and silence/stun it as the panicked snotling wreaks havoc.
@IntoTheRainbow said:
Like who would win Diomedes vs Warboss (using special abilities)?
Diomedes, by far
Even with Warboss' Spinning Klaw move + Stun Klaw attack? Would be quite close I'd imagine.
Not even the same league.
Warboss is amazing for disrupting armies and protecting own, but he is about worst 1v1 hero you could have in game, especially against single target opponents instead of squads as he got one of the lowest raw DPS(25) but cleave attack, making him very good against high DPS squads, preferably ranged, but he does fine against melee as well as his own attacks reduce DPS by 50%. Still, even after that reduction, Dio got almost twice as much DPS.
Interesting. Diomedes is as badass as he looks then. I'm an Ork player mostly so haven't spent a lot of time using SM elites.
Where are you getting these stats from btw?
You can dig all stats using mod tools, but game tells you a lot if you pay attention and read codex.
Space marines gets a Ironclad Dreadnought while Eldar gets a Wraithseer... does that mean orks gets Mega Dread?
Not sure about a Mega Dread, as those are clearly bigger and more powerful than regular Deff Dreads. This would require a completely new in-game model as well.
The Mega Dread is a heavy Ork walker and is the largest Ork walker short of a Stompa. The Mega-Dread is a hulking, armor plated monster, much larger and considerably more powerful than the more commonly encountered Deff Dreads and Killa Kans.
It will likely be just a standard Deff Dread with projectile armament. That would be the safest and quite frankly most boring route Relic could take with the Orks' new elite. I think my dream of Flash Gitz is dying.
I'm too sad that the Ork new elite might not be Flash Gitz, but I understand that Relic wants to go with a theme.
Nevertheless, despite me not getting a Flash Gitz, I'm still interested what kind of new Deff Dread Elite would like, and if ranged then what kind of weapon will use? Maybe it will be a Scorcha equipped Deff Dread?
Though I might be suprised if Relic would add a tracked vehicle Elite for Orks, but I guess they will go with current theme.
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jonoliveira12
Kommando can wreck Diomedes, though. Not only can you stealth mine and blast him very quickly, but Kommando's attack can knockback twice, making him perfect for making sure Diomedes is not on top of your Lootas, which can then DPS him down.
Kat_RE
@Valeran More teases are coming. One very, very soon - in fact! I'd be watching our Facebook and Twitter today.
SparklingRanger
Oh holy emporer! Thats music to my ears !
Socite
We're getting at least one other map. http://steamcommunity.com/app/285190/discussions/0/1473095331492354941/?tscn=1507048176
Edit: didn't see Kat had added to this discussion until after I commented this xD
Socite
The next elite has been teased! It appears to be some form of Wraith unit (a Wraithseer?)
https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22154528_10155705966458905_1386178200219786710_n.png?oh=360316d02abb0c8f07256cd0a291fb13&oe=5A4E8232
Katitof
You can dig all stats using mod tools, but game tells you a lot if you pay attention and read codex.
Auni
I really hope, every race get a new Elite.
Otherwise it will be Mirror matchup 24/7 espacialy in 1vs1.
For sure, everyone want to try out the new Elite.
I am a little bit scared, that relic will give us every mounth 1 elite. So they got 3 mounths of "DLC - update's" with everytime a single elite .
I really hope im wrong in this case, and we get all 3 Elites in same time(eldar,ork,sm)
While i have to say, the Doktrin's on this Elite are very bad. espacialy in 1vs1.
Landspeeder get another doktrin, i wish you would buff the Main unit and not add another doktrin for this.
why you should take triple landspeeder doktrin to get a "powerfull" landspeeder out on min 10-11 . sadly you lost the map control on this point allready, and basicly the game anyway!
I mean of course, a Landspeeder with triple doktrin could be really usefull. But yeah
Your opponent will have atleast 3-4 squads mroe then you and also he will be allready on t2.
knockback on scoutmines.
I mean sounds really nice but , scoutmines are so easy to counter.
Every mine is easy to counter in this game. Cause you just need workers with you and you can ignore the mines!
Aslong you got vision to this mines, they cannot be activated, even if you step on it.
We do not see the costs of this elite atm.
But im 99% sure, this will be a Heavy armor Elite, so it has to be 6 point+ .
If this Elite would be really a 4-5 point elite, you could rush it, out while your opponent has not a single anti tank weapon = GG
Finnaly, after 6 mounths? we got a new 1vs1 map, only 1??
@Kat_RE where is the problem, why you won't add every 3 mounth a complete new mappool , over votes?
Why you offer us mapping tools+ updates for this, if you don't use the maps for your own mappool?
Why is the customlobby system still so weird, why i have to subsribe first to the Mod -> download it, and restart my client?
I mean in 80% the game is closed after my download !
whats about observer modus???
Whats about pathing issues bugs?
VIsion bugs?
this is more important to fix, instead of giving us a new Elite -> atleast in my opinion
IntoTheRainbow
Ok thanks> @Socite said:
It's very clearly a Wraithseer. Awesome.
Katitof
That's going to be amazing, regardless of what it can do!
Guziol
Mite b cool but i was really hoping for a warlock.
Katitof
Its a wraithseer, start gathering some sh*t to lose at incoming 7-8ep Macha
On a cool spectrum, Warlock to Wraithseer is like marine scout to terminator. You really need to try HARD to get any cooler then Wraithseer when it comes to eldar Psychers, dead or alive.
Draconix
Interesting that Relic goes with theme of new Elites. So that means that Ork also will get a new walker Elite.
The question is, what it would be? Maybe from Forge World like for example Mega Dread? Or it could be Dow3's original unit like Mad Dread? I'm starting to get curious.
Still it's pity that it won't be Fire Dragons, but Wraithseer is nice too. Good that not only Space Marines will get a new Elite.
IntoTheRainbow
You spoke too soon. Looks like at least 3 new elites, at least 1 new map and several doctrines this month.
After this, in November, would be nice for Relic to start teasing a new race. They are doing well, gotta keep up the momentum.
Wargrim
More than one map in next patch? Very nice!
Elites are nice too, but more maps are always useful. And in that spirit, i can only agree with those who ask for a procedure to include some really good custom maps into the automatch pool. ( And/or automated ingame map/mod downloads. )
CANNED_F3TUS
Very likely to be next up man. Probably gonna be a 5 pointer too with heavy emphasize on nuking and tanking clearly
Tobi
Ok then oks one is some kind of dread definitly..
Reyseth
@Kat_RE the elites are cool and i think remains one of the orcs but when will see released the new patch ?
Reyseth
i know October but when? Next week, Finals of the month, etc
GuruSkippy
ork mega dread maybe ?
SparklingRanger
I suppose end of the month. So far the most Patches arrived on the end of an month.
TokyoDream
Sweet! I'm sure there'll be a 3v3 in there. That's actually what I'm most excited about in this patch. (still hoping against hope for FFA mode) I don't see the new dread replacing my terminators. Wraithseer is probably the coolest thing they could have added to Eldar. Looking forward to seeing that in action.
Raksoman
Space marines gets a Ironclad Dreadnought while Eldar gets a Wraithseer... does that mean orks gets Mega Dread?
Psycholord
@Kat_RE can we expect new races soon? you can send a private msger, i won't tell anyone....or am i.....................................?
Jazz_Sandwich
I'm impressed with the frequency with which these teases are coming. The patch looks to be an excellent one, looking forward to it!
IntoTheRainbow
Not sure about a Mega Dread, as those are clearly bigger and more powerful than regular Deff Dreads. This would require a completely new in-game model as well.
It will likely be just a standard Deff Dread with projectile armament. That would be the safest and quite frankly most boring route Relic could take with the Orks' new elite. I think my dream of Flash Gitz is dying.
Jazz_Sandwich
@IntoTheRainbow
The other two races seem to be getting elites analogous to their 7-point walkers but with different roles. Ironclad dread instead of plasma cannon dread, wraithseer instead of wraithlord... but I'm not aware of any orky unit which is a ranged walker along the tier of the mad dread.
Functionally, flash gits could fit the role of a 7 point ranged superiority unit? If we're to understand that elites are being released based on the role they should fill, it could fit?
That said, I think youre right in that the smart money is on something like a "kustom dread" with a powerful ranged weapon. I'm just wondering what the weaponry would be. Beamy deffguns? A bunch of rokkit launchas? A bunch of deffguns? A combination of all the above? My deepest wish would be for something like a shokk attack gun, even as just an activatable ability to do high damage to a vehicle and silence/stun it as the panicked snotling wreaks havoc.
Draconix
I'm too sad that the Ork new elite might not be Flash Gitz, but I understand that Relic wants to go with a theme.
Nevertheless, despite me not getting a Flash Gitz, I'm still interested what kind of new Deff Dread Elite would like, and if ranged then what kind of weapon will use? Maybe it will be a Scorcha equipped Deff Dread?
Though I might be suprised if Relic would add a tracked vehicle Elite for Orks, but I guess they will go with current theme.
Reyseth
Now I'm starting to get scared about this patch, if it's so big we probably don't see another new patch after a long time